This series of podcasts is curated to celebrate KL Design Festival 2022, co-organized by PAM NEXT, with a theme of Resilience in Architecture. The guests were invited to share their perspectives and thoughts from different disciplines to provide a diverse understanding of being resilient in architecture and beyond.   In this episode, Gary had a conversation with Sathesh Raj on space biology and why it is crucial to see our planet Earth and its ecosystem from a larger view.  "This episode for some perhaps will find far-fetched from the resilience in architecture - but Sathesh's sharing, in the end, amplified the responsibilities of us as the citizen on this planet. I am particularly interested in these geological and ecological knowledge, including the lifespan of planets - often forgotten in architectural education or practice. By looking into the examples of extremophiles and tardigrades, accompanied with his notes on extreme environment, he projected these into the scenarios of the water level rising in Jakarta that calls for relocation to East Kalimantan (also what happened in Chernobyl after the nuclear accident). This questions the ability and endurance of the human civilization on this planet, where we have to be aware of how our actions - no matter how trivial it is - and resources we use are part of the ecosystem that we live in." 

For more information, please visit 
https://www.space.com/spaghettified-star-observed-near-black-hole 
https://www.npr.org/2013/12/27/256897343/stretch-or-splat-how-a-black-hole-kills-you-matters-a-lot 

References in the interview: 
Chernobyl New Jakarta 
Nusantara Extremophiles Tardigrades

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