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Episode Synopsis
When you’re running a practice, change is constant, but staying focused during the hard parts is where most therapists get stuck. In this episode, James talks with Michael Dettrich-Chastain, therapist and CEO of Arc Integrated, about why we revert to old habits and what to do instead. From real-life struggles with tools like ClickUp to Michael’s 7 Influencers of Change, this episode is packed with insights for practice owners who want to grow without burning out.
In this episode
How to stay focused when making changes in your practice, even when things get uncomfortable
A breakdown of Michael Dettrich-Chastain’s 7 Influencers of Change framework
Real examples of why we revert to old habits and how to build support systems that keep you moving forward
Show Highlights
[00:00:01] Michael opens with the idea that success is self-defined because we are always in flux and always changing.
[00:01:00] James introduces Michael and shares how they met at the Wise Practice Summit.
[00:02:00] Michael shares about the flood in North Carolina and the community’s response during crisis.
[00:04:15] Michael’s journey from therapist to CEO and the leap from comfort to entrepreneurship.
[00:07:00] How becoming a father changed Michael’s perspective on work, travel, and balance.
[00:08:00] Why change in practice often shows up as symptoms, not signs—frustration, delay, complaints.
[00:10:00] Michael introduces his 7 Influencers of Change: cognition, heart, action, nourishment, guts, environment, spirit.
[00:12:00] How environment keeps us stuck—and how to shift it to support change.
[00:13:45] James shares his ClickUp struggle as a real example of falling back on old habits when change gets hard.
[00:15:00] Michael applies his framework to James’s situation, focusing on cognition and environment.
[00:17:30] Why clearly defining success is the key to staying focused when things get tough.
[00:20:00] Entrepreneurship as personal development—how change forces us to grow in unexpected ways.
[00:20:30] Where to find Michael’s free change management resources and tools.
Links and Resources
Free toolkit from Michael: arcintegrated.com/free
Michael’s website: arcintegrated.com
Project management tool discussed: ClickUp
Book: Changes by Michael Dettrich-Chastain
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