In this episode, Matt and Corinna explore the power of reframing—a key mental health skill that helps shift the narrative in moments of stress, misunderstanding, and emotional conflict. They discuss how recognizing thought distortions, focusing on what’s within our control, and choosing response over reaction can transform communication and strengthen connection. The concept of emotional ladders is introduced as a way to understand how quickly tension can escalate—and how intentional reframing can help couples de-escalate and reconnect. Through vulnerable storytelling, they open up about Matt’s experience with OCD, particularly during times of illness, and how it challenged assumptions around love, safety, and rejection. From everyday disagreements to deeper emotional hurdles, they show how empathy and reframing can move relationships from conflict to connection.LinksEmotional LaddersSorry Soda Lovers USA Today ArticleGottman's The Four Horsemen

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