Kelly and Neil have been married for twelve years and have five children. Laugh with them, love with them, and learn with them as they talk together through their own marriage with the hope that the dialogue inspires the same kind of openness in the marriages of the listeners.

Latest episodes of the podcast The General & The Saint

• 04_Submission in Life, Submission in Marriage
• 03_Budgeting & Affording Hobbies
• 02_Exploring Hobbies in Marriage
• 01_Introducing The General & The Saint