Episode Synopsis "The Challenger - Jenny Shipley"

In part four, Guyon Espiner talks to Dame Jenny Shipley about being the first woman on the 9th Floor, plus coups and coalitions, welfare reform and Winston Peters. And, above all, her commitment to change.

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More episodes of the podcast The 9th Floor

• The Book Launch
• The Commander - Helen Clark
• The Challenger - Jenny Shipley
• The Negotiator - Jim Bolger
• The Trader - Mike Moore
• The Reformer - Geoffrey Palmer