John Hitchin is Chief Executive of Renaisi, an organisation dedicated to improving places. He has contributed to the How to be Wrong network since its inception. He talks here about how some of the ideas in the interim report have derived from and inform the work of Renaisi, and the prospects for the relationship between evidence and policy.

In the conversation with John, Michael refers to his essay (https://renaisi.com/2019/05/13/concept-of-place-in-policy-essay/) You can’t get there from here and a short blog (https://renaisi.com/2020/02/03/what-do-people-mean-when-they-talk-about-place-based-change/) John wrote in response to the How to be Wrong report.

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