Listen "64 [#ATC2025 Live] – In Conversation with Ross Clennett"
Episode Synopsis
A special VMJPod series – live from ATC 2025! We sit down with industry leaders to go beyond the buzz and discuss what AI really means for talent teams. Series co-hosted by VideoMy Founder and CEO, David Maccioca and TaPod's Craig Watson. _______We sit down with industry legend Ross Clennett, attending his 17th Australian Talent Conference. As a long-time trainer, coach, and commentator on the recruitment industry, Ross brings an unflinching perspective on how AI will transform agency recruitment, and why he thinks most agency owners aren't prepared for what's coming.Ross explains that generative AI will reduce total employment in recruitment agencies by automating low-skill work, but those who remain will become significantly more valuable and highly paid. He identifies sourcing, screening, and scheduling as the low-hanging fruit for AI automation, yet notes that most agency owners, who succeeded because they love the human side of recruitment, aren't thinking strategically enough about the productivity gains and cost savings AI could deliver.The conversation tackles a critical paradox: if AI automates the entry-level tasks that junior recruiters traditionally learn from, where will the next generation of experienced recruiters come from? And what will the very nature of work look like in ten years' time?Ross draws a powerful analogy to Seek's impact on newspaper classifieds: Ten years after Seek launched, the Friday AFR still had 115 job ads. Ten years after that? Just six. His warning to agency owners: "You won't have a business unless you stop and reflect on what's coming."Key Topics:01:30 – How generative AI will reduce agency headcount but increase value of remaining recruiters02:40 – Why most agency owners aren't tech-oriented and what they're missing03:50 – The graduate pipeline crisis: What happens when AI replaces entry-level learning?05:20 – Why RPOs have a bright future if they lean into AI and labor market expertise07:00 – The decline of high-volume white-collar agencies: Why Hays and Michael Page are struggling08:10 – The gigification of white-collar work: Ross's concerns for the 30-45 age bracket09:40 – Why most agency owners would sadly dismiss ATC content as too far removed from daily operations11:00 – The Seek analogy: How 10 years can completely transform an industryIf you want to learn more about activating your employer brand strategy and EVP then you can check out podcast.videomyjob.com for a library of industry perspectives and how-tos. Now, if you’re ready to level up your activation strategy then you need an employee story video platform and that’s what we do! Go to videomyjob.com/demo to book a walkthrough with one of our video specialists or click on the pricing page to learn about our new 60-day pilot program. Lastly, we’d love for you to help us spread the word about the VMJPod to attract new experts and practitioners to share their activation strategies, so please take a screenshot and post it on LinkedIn, don’t forget to tag us at VideoMyJob, we are so grateful when you do that!
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