Listen "Episode 48: A Ring’s Unbelievable Journey Out of Bergen-Belsen & Into Artist Judi Varnai Aronson’s Life"
Episode Synopsis
In these dark times, where some people are trying to erase history, telling our stories is an act of resistance.
“Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Things That Matter,” she began with her trademark warmth. “Today, I have the privilege of speaking with Judi Varnai Aronson—artist, entrepreneur, and keeper of a truly remarkable family jewels story.”
Judi smiled, her hands resting gently on her lap. “Thank you, Martie. I’m honored to be here and grateful to share this part of my family’s history.”
Martie nodded. “We’ve known each other for over 20 years. Our connection runs deep with Brooklyn, but also with the stories of the treasures we carry. You mentioned something recently of Facebook—a ring, and the incredible journey it took that brought it to you. Would you share that with us?”
Taking a deep breath, Judi opened her palm to reveal a delicate diamond ring. “This is my grandmother’s engagement ring. She lived in Hungary during the Holocaust, and though I never met her, her legacy is part of who I am.” Her voice was steady, but emotion flickered in her eyes. “She was offered the chance to escape by the brave Wallenberg, but out of fear and uncertainty, she refused. Instead, she boarded a train to Bergen-Belsen, and with unimaginable courage, she managed to hide this ring from the guards—despite their efforts to strip every last bit of gold from their victims.”
Martie leaned in, visibly moved. “How did the ring make it out—how did it come to be yours today?”
Judi nodded solemnly. “When my grandmother knew she might not survive, she entrusted the ring to a stranger and begged him to give it to her only son, my father, whom she didn’t even know was still alive. Against all odds, the man survived, found my father through refugee agencies after the war, and delivered the ring. My father kept it safe all his life, through liberation, loss, and a new beginning after we fled Hungary during the revolution. About ten years before he died at age 98, he passed it on to me.”
Martie’s voice softened. “That’s incredible, Judi. With everything your father endured, to hold on to this one thing—a symbol of love, family, and survival. What do you hope will happen to the ring when you are dead & gone?”
Judi smiled. “I want it to stay in our family. I’ve considered passing it to my daughter, or eventually to my three-year-old grandson. But even more important than the ring itself is the story it carries. In a world where there are still people who deny the Holocaust, passing on this story is my way of making sure the truth lives on.”
The room was quiet for a moment, the weight of the story settling in. Then Martie gestured to Judi’s surroundings. “You’re also a talented potter and artist. How does your creative work tie into your family’s story and your own healing?”
Judi turned her camera to showcase beautiful pieces of pottery—totem poles of raku ware, vases, and more. “For me, working with clay is healing. It’s a way to honor the past, find joy, and keep creating.”
Martie closed the conversation with her signature reflection. “Thank you, Judi, for sharing this deeply personal story and for reminding us that it’s not just the objects, but the stories behind them that truly matter. To everyone watching or listening, remember to share your stories and cherish those Things that hold meaning in your own life.”
With a final smile & a thank you, the episode ended, having woven together memory, survival, and the art of keeping history alive.
It's important for all of us to remember that our stories are always part of our collective history. There is no history without personal history. Keep on sharing your stories of the Things you keep, the Things that matter & the Things you will leave behind. Your stories matter!
To learn more about & connect with this amazing artist: Find her on Instagram & Facebook by typing in Judi Varnai Aronson. Check out her gorgeous pottery & jewelry.
“Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Things That Matter,” she began with her trademark warmth. “Today, I have the privilege of speaking with Judi Varnai Aronson—artist, entrepreneur, and keeper of a truly remarkable family jewels story.”
Judi smiled, her hands resting gently on her lap. “Thank you, Martie. I’m honored to be here and grateful to share this part of my family’s history.”
Martie nodded. “We’ve known each other for over 20 years. Our connection runs deep with Brooklyn, but also with the stories of the treasures we carry. You mentioned something recently of Facebook—a ring, and the incredible journey it took that brought it to you. Would you share that with us?”
Taking a deep breath, Judi opened her palm to reveal a delicate diamond ring. “This is my grandmother’s engagement ring. She lived in Hungary during the Holocaust, and though I never met her, her legacy is part of who I am.” Her voice was steady, but emotion flickered in her eyes. “She was offered the chance to escape by the brave Wallenberg, but out of fear and uncertainty, she refused. Instead, she boarded a train to Bergen-Belsen, and with unimaginable courage, she managed to hide this ring from the guards—despite their efforts to strip every last bit of gold from their victims.”
Martie leaned in, visibly moved. “How did the ring make it out—how did it come to be yours today?”
Judi nodded solemnly. “When my grandmother knew she might not survive, she entrusted the ring to a stranger and begged him to give it to her only son, my father, whom she didn’t even know was still alive. Against all odds, the man survived, found my father through refugee agencies after the war, and delivered the ring. My father kept it safe all his life, through liberation, loss, and a new beginning after we fled Hungary during the revolution. About ten years before he died at age 98, he passed it on to me.”
Martie’s voice softened. “That’s incredible, Judi. With everything your father endured, to hold on to this one thing—a symbol of love, family, and survival. What do you hope will happen to the ring when you are dead & gone?”
Judi smiled. “I want it to stay in our family. I’ve considered passing it to my daughter, or eventually to my three-year-old grandson. But even more important than the ring itself is the story it carries. In a world where there are still people who deny the Holocaust, passing on this story is my way of making sure the truth lives on.”
The room was quiet for a moment, the weight of the story settling in. Then Martie gestured to Judi’s surroundings. “You’re also a talented potter and artist. How does your creative work tie into your family’s story and your own healing?”
Judi turned her camera to showcase beautiful pieces of pottery—totem poles of raku ware, vases, and more. “For me, working with clay is healing. It’s a way to honor the past, find joy, and keep creating.”
Martie closed the conversation with her signature reflection. “Thank you, Judi, for sharing this deeply personal story and for reminding us that it’s not just the objects, but the stories behind them that truly matter. To everyone watching or listening, remember to share your stories and cherish those Things that hold meaning in your own life.”
With a final smile & a thank you, the episode ended, having woven together memory, survival, and the art of keeping history alive.
It's important for all of us to remember that our stories are always part of our collective history. There is no history without personal history. Keep on sharing your stories of the Things you keep, the Things that matter & the Things you will leave behind. Your stories matter!
To learn more about & connect with this amazing artist: Find her on Instagram & Facebook by typing in Judi Varnai Aronson. Check out her gorgeous pottery & jewelry.
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