Are our churches unintentionally approving exclusivity?Stu, Tim and Joel dive deep into the research behind Stu's PhD on the Shock Absorber, youth ministry and generative intergenerational ministry—and why most churches experience cultural lag that makes them irrelevant.Motivated to understand why young people leave the church, Stu shares why he started (and restarted) his PhD, using what he has learned from 20 years in youth ministry and 13 years planting Soul Revival.The conversation explores the meditative benefits of writing and walking, the imposter syndrome Stu feels in academia, and the "clown suit" metaphor—how Christians became irrelevant trying to be cool instead of just being confident in Jesus. They discuss Blue Ocean Strategy and why Soul Revival looks to be a pioneer in ministry instead of competing for the same young people.Stu explains how the PhD work has moved from "moderate intergenerational ministry" to "generative intergenerational ministry" by combining Kendra Creasy Dean's and Erik Erikson's work. This reveals the gap in youth ministry literature and highlights how the homogeneous unit principle creates a gravitational pull toward exclusivity.The Shock Absorber model flips the script: young people can experiment on how to be a Christian in new cultural contexts, while adults provide theological grounding and wisdom. It's about having both segregated youth spaces AND accessible intergenerational spaces—the fifth way of doing ministry.As Tim notes towards the end: this only works because we're co-adopted by the same Saviour, which makes humility between the generations possible.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro: the meditative benefits of writing and walking12:50 - The motivating factors behind Stu's PhD31:49 - Soul Revival helped people be confident and Christian1:00:37 - Generative intergenerational model1:25:50 - Tim's TakeawayDiscussed on this episode:Guy Goma: The Wrong GuyJenn's Interview - The IT CrowdMoving beyond the shock absorber: The place of youth ministry—past, present and future, by Stu CrawshawThe Child in God's Church, by Tim BeilharzGlenn Maxwell produces one of the greatest ODI knocks of all-timeHigh Agency, by George MackKenda Creasy DeanErik EriksonThe Generative Church, by Corey SeibelSoul Revival Late Night at Sydney Airport

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