In this episode of The Plucky Bamboo Podcast, I sit down with Joe Phoenix, founder and CEO of Givinga — a fintech company powering corporate giving strategies from the inside out.We talk about the stuff most leaders don’t admit publicly:Why ESG can’t be a box-ticking exercise anymoreHow to delegate without dropping the ballWhat really builds trust at scale (hint: it’s not just messaging)And why growing a purpose-led business always takes 5x longer than you expectIf you’re a sustainability founder stuck between vision and execution, this episode is packed with grounded insight, strategic advice, and hard-earned lessons on building something that lasts.

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