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Latest episodes of the podcast The Both& Leader Podcast

• Episode 5: How To Have Hard Conversations | The Both& Leader Jared Ellis
• Episode 4: Spirit-led Ministry & Structure-led Ministry w/ Jared Ellis & Banning Liebscher
• Episode 3: Race, Diversity & Unity w/ Jared Ellis and Jason Caine
• Episode 2: Leadership & Sanity - Maintaining Both w/ Jared Ellis and Dustin Bates
• Episode 1: What Is A Both& Leader - Pilot | The Both& Leader Podcast - EP 001