Sam speaks with Tobi Elusakin, a sustainability consultant with the international construction and consulting firm Mace, in this week's Sustain Talks.   Tobi provides us a wonderful overview of his professional background and offers some excellent advice for those who want to work in sustainability. He talks to us about his values and how his perspective on sustainability has changed over the course of his schooling and career.   Sam and Tobi discuss the challenging times we all have ahead of us due to the energy crisis and climate change.   Tobi shared this grim yet true assessment:   "The only reason most people are focusing on energy consumption right now is that it's really expensive"  On a more encouraging note, Tobi explains what Mace are doing to teach its staff about sustainability, including holding weekly masterclasses on subjects like solar, renewable energy, and retrofitting.   This Sustain Talks is for you if you're an individual trying to learn more about sustainability or a company looking to teach your staff more about how to be more sustainable.   00:45 - Who is Tobi Elusakin 06:00 - Tobi's view of sustainability 10:32 - What is the answer to the energy crisis? 16:35 - Tobi's view on Net Zero. 23:50 - How is Mace getting employees involved in achieving targets? 27:20 - How to retain staff with education and sustainability goals. 28:54 - What do we all need to stop doing?

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