What if the tools reshaping our cities still think it’s 1998? Amar Hanspal thinks that’s a bug, not a feature—and he’s building the patch.Amar Hanspal is a veteran product leader and entrepreneur who helped steer Autodesk’s product org through a massive cloud shift before co-founding Bright Machines. Today he’s the co-founder of Motif, reimagining how architects and engineers design—collaborative, AI-native, and web-first. With decades spanning CAD’s early PC era to modern ML, he offers a rare front-row view of how platform shifts rewrite entire industries. In this episode, he shares why AEC tools froze in time, how to modernize the design stack without breaking workflows, and what “Figma + Cursor for buildings” actually looks like in practice.In this episode, they discuss how to turn customer empathy into product judgment, the grind behind true distribution, and why the biggest AI wins in AEC won’t be flashy—they’ll quietly kill the drudgery.In Today’s Episode We Discuss00:01 — Early hustle: empathy learned through 100 customer calls a day00:27 — Discovering CAD on a microVAX and joining Autodesk’s early wave02:57 — From listening to choosing: the evolution of product judgment04:50 — First startup lessons: timing, humility, and asking customers to pay05:19 — Rejoining Autodesk and learning to scale leadership07:00 — Dot-com detour: building, raising, and shutting down a venture07:31 — Leading Autodesk’s cloud transformation and move into construction08:45 — Why computer vision led to Bright Machines10:46 — The birth of Motif: designing for carbon, complexity, and collaboration12:49 — Tackling the hardest problems first: scale and real-time teamwork15:00 — Starting with architects: where Motif begins15:40 — Product #1: a collaborative 3D workspace for context sharing16:44 — Embrace, then replace: winning users from legacy tools18:07 — “Figma meets Cursor” — AI as a co-designer for buildings19:26 — GTM strategy: human-in-the-loop now, product-led later21:29 — Founder vs. executive mindset: execution, resilience, and team24:57 — Real AI value: automating the boring, not the brilliant27:46 — Why Motif starts from a clean sheet (not geometry-first)30:40 — Measuring speed-ups and early user feedback31:37 — Defining success: love from users before scale32:50 — Lessons for AEC founders: problem-first, tech-second33:19 — Mythbusting BIM: it doesn’t have to be painful33:37 — Pride point: leading Autodesk’s cloud shift34:27 — Adobe vs. Autodesk: two paths to reinvention35:26 — Regrets and reflections: taking bigger swings soonerSubscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ga6v0YUsHotLhjap67uu5Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ignite-conversations-on-startups-venture-capital-tech/id1709248824Follow Amar Hanspal on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amarhanspal/Follow Amar Hanspal on X: https://x.com/amarhanspalFollow Brian on X: https://x.com/brianrbellFollow Brian on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bblinkedin/Visit Our Website: https://www.teamignite.venturesSubscribe to Our Newsletter: https://insights.teamignite.ventures/👂🎧 Watch, listen, and follow on your favorite platform: https://tr.ee/S2ayrbx_fL 🙏 Join the conversation on your favorite social network: https://linktr.ee/theignitepodcast

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