What’s the greatest need in American society? You could argue for empathy. Especially if you’re Michael Tennant, founder of Curious Labs and the creator of the card game Actually Curious. Between appearing on the Today Show and being featured in The NY Times, he agreed to spend some time with us. The conversation went far and wide… and deep. He shared his origin story, then we talked candidly about race and the biases we all grow up with but are often blind to. Michael was fun and gracious and, we hope, invigorated by our two hour long exchange. We were. (Don’t worry. We cut it down to an hour and change.)

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