Yes it was just the cup, but that Everton display was woeful. Should we have looked at some younger players? Did we even want to win the game? We look ahead to Cardiff on Saturday too, which is surely a must win. Joining Stephen and Gareth in the studio is The Chronicle's James Hunter.Also, remember to join us upstairs at The Peacock on Saturday before the game where we'll preview the Cardiff City match live with former Sunderland midfielder Gordon Armstrong! You can ask him your questions, there's also retro SAFC videos on the big screen as well as food and drink promotions. All kicking off at 12:30pm. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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