This week Luke interviews Will on his recent read of Chatter by Ethan Kross. We cover the key concepts of what mental chatter is, why we have it and the ways it can backfire. Then we get into some really practical strategies to combat it. A great read.   
Hope you enjoy. 
Will & Luke  

00:00 Introductions 
01:00 What is chatter 
03:45 Why we have chatter  
11:00 When talking to ourselves backfires (and discernment) 
17:00 Zooming out  
21:45 Temporal Distancing and Narrative writing  
24:00 The role of perspective, CBT and compassion  
30:45 The power and peril of other people. Utilising others to address chatter. Co-rumination trap 
38:00 Tools that involve others which lower chatter temperature  
41:30 Outside in - environmental supports for chatter. Voluntary and involuntary attention.  
44:45 The shrinking of the self  
49:30 Benefits of creating order (also rituals) 
52:00 Placebo effect  
54:30 Final reflections and summary   

Find the book at: https://www.ethankross.com/ 
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