This episode of "When I Stop Fighting" features a deep and heartfelt conversation between the host, Daryl Dittmer, and Phyllis Leavitt, a psychotherapist and author with decades of experience in healing trauma and exploring the intersection of psychology and spirituality. Phyllis shares her personal journey, marked by early childhood trauma and moments of profound divine connection, which inspired her writing and therapeutic practice. Her story highlights the importance of both psychological healing and spiritual awakening as intertwined paths toward wholeness, emphasizing that her darkest times were often illuminated by unexpected experiences of love and guidance from a higher source.A central theme of the discussion is the transformative power of surrender. Both Phyllis and the Daryl reflect on their own moments of "giving up"—not as defeat, but as a necessary release that opened them to deeper healing and spiritual insight. Phyllis recounts how, during her lowest points, surrendering led to receiving direct, compassionate guidance that became the basis for her first two books. This act of letting go is presented as essential for personal transformation, allowing individuals to move beyond the cycle of internal and external conflict and to access inner peace.The conversation expands to examine how individual healing can contribute to collective well-being. Drawing from her latest book, "America in Therapy," Phyllis advocates for bringing psychological and emotional health into national and societal conversations. She argues that much of societal dysfunction stems from unaddressed trauma and a cultural paradigm that prizes fighting and winning over vulnerability and connection. Both speakers stress the importance of creating safe spaces for vulnerability, embracing humility, and breaking cycles of victimization to foster compassion, cooperation, and lasting peace.Finally, the dialogue explores the relationship between religion, spirituality, and psychotherapy. Both participants discuss how spiritual growth often requires moving beyond rigid religious dogma to discover a personal, experiential connection with the divine. They note that faith is not static but develops through lived experience, healing, and openness to guidance. The episode concludes with an invitation to embrace vulnerability, seek help when needed, and plant seeds of compassion and understanding, both within ourselves and in the wider world, as the foundation for true healing and collective evolution.Find Phyllis at:https://www.facebook.com/phyllis.leavitthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOdxqvDK9N421AZ5TTxqUgQhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/phyllis-leavitt-630179255/https://www.instagram.com/phyllis_e_leavitt/https://twitter.com/PhyllisLeavitt2 https://substack.com/@phyllisleavitt1

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