In this episode of What’s the DEIL?, Shanté and Natalie are fired up, and for good reason.It’s time to have a real conversation about what it actually takes to lead DEI in an organization. Spoiler alert: Good intentions and lived experience alone aren’t enough.We unpack the all-too-common trend of companies placing well-meaning but under-resourced employees, often women of color, into DEI roles with little support, no training, and sky-high expectations. This episode explores why DEI is a business function that deserves the same rigor, expertise, and strategic leadership as finance, sales, or operations.Here’s what we cover: • Why lived experience alone doesn’t equal DEI expertise • The critical skills every DEI leader needs: strategy, collaboration, project management, data fluency, and comms savvy • The hidden burnout crisis behind “volunteer” DEI committees • What companies risk by underestimating the role, from stalled progress to real liability • What to look for when hiring a true DEI quarterback (hint: it’s more than passion) • Why strong communication and storytelling matter more than ever in advancing the workWhether you’re in the C-suite or currently serving on a DEI committee with no clear roadmap, this episode is your wake-up call to do better, for the sake of your people and your business.Follow & Connect with us:Follow Natalie Norfus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienorfus/. Follow Shante Gordon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shantegordon/. We’ve led hundreds of audits, assessments, and people strategy engagements, and we’d love to help your organization. Book a consultation with The Norfus Firm: https://thenorfusfirm.com/. Follow What’s the DEIL on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whatsthedeil/. Follow What’s the DEIL on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@whatsthedeil. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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