Moses WIlliams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – The Horror of Naivety, Fascination with Taboo, and the Obsessive Drive to Self-Educate

20/05/2025 1h 32min
Moses WIlliams (SO/SP 5w6 513) – The Horror of Naivety, Fascination with Taboo, and the Obsessive Drive to Self-Educate

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Moses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didn’t. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topics—pornography, sexual deviance, violence—not to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: “Am I stupid for not knowing this already?” He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.  LINKS  Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/ Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course  Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/  Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994  House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ ⁨@houseofenneagram⁩     TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Intro  02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people  06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear  09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs  13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy  15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions  22:56 - ‘Worst moment of life’, social incompetence  28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it ‘my way’ and making it work, “the way I do teamwork is by not working with people”  31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, ‘becoming sanitized’, stripping out people’s assumptions  35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility  42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real  45:47 - Social relationships allow ‘getting to the heart’, loneliness and regret  50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image  58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isn’t actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an...

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