"I'm a manifester like nobody is.... No doesn't work for me. I don't even know what no means. No means I gotta think about it in a different way." ~ Kim Jozwiak
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Kim Jozwiak [SP/SO 7w6 712] is a therapist and trauma survivor whose life story blew me away. As a therapist, she works with EMDR therapy, Internal Family Systems (IFS), and various forms of mindfulness. We discuss her life story, her trauma, and how she settled her mental center and grounded herself. Enjoy.   
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Timestamps: 
0:00 Intro
3:48 Sweaty hands to start, nervous, "I've always been a runner"
6:08 7 interpretation of arousal unlikely to be "I'm anxious," more positive framing, buzzing exhilaration
9:01 Haircutting after trauma; mom's response, "Just trust in the Lord!"
11:24 Kim's "parts" consent to tell her life story; mom's brain injury 1 year before pregnant with me
15:41 Being molested & later symptoms, social anxiety
20:22 7 with triple super-ego (1, 2, 6) + disorganized attachment; repulsed when others merge with me
24:25 True crime fascination as counter-phobic response to be near psychological pay-dirt; "President of the misfits"
27:11 Traumatic middle school years: "instant love affair" with pot, alcohol; being taken advantage of; dad dies, religious gaslighting
33:43 Hiding overwhelmed self; NO ONE KNEW; checked out mother praying over me in tongues
37:09 "I'm amazing at not getting caught." 7 ability to get what I want; "I will not be trapped by not having enough money" -- the only friend with a job; SP awareness
41:55 From insincere faker to genuine "Jesus freak" - The Billy Graham Crusade and Kim's religious awakening (at 16)
46:43 Josh making sense of Kim's awakening, given previous religious gaslighting
50:32 Despite being pied piper leader, so disconnected that barely remember those people
52:55 The risky 7 way she moved to Chicago after high school
55:47 Flight energy -- "I can't be here. It'll be better somewhere else." Keep moving, "No one's gonna trap me."
58:28 Personality as survival mechanism
1:00:07 "I meet a boy" -- Christian morality, get married bc we're having sex (6 wing); inner split; difficult marriage, intensified drinking; "I kept moving, job to job, skimmed it all, didn't leave room for digestion"
1:06:03 Couples therapy - first time in therapy at all -- then met Joe 1:09:58 Self-abandonment, trauma-based; "should" vs "want"
1:13:41 7 mental "digitization" of others, not truly seeing others, creating suffering; 7-2 stem; in relationship with a 2
1:16:48 The conscious practice of connecting -- can only connect to other when I'm connected to my body ...

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