Roxanne Petraeus and Melanie Naranjo sit down with Kelli Dragovich, four-time CPO and co-creator of HR Heretics, for a candid conversation about today’s toughest workplace challenges.They unpack:Why traditional benefits often backfire (and what actually matters most to employees).The rise in hostility between workers and leaders—from viral CEO takedowns to candidate feedback.How LinkedIn can turn into a battleground (even over treadmill desks).Why younger generations won’t tolerate toxic workplaces—no matter the paycheck.From plain-speak communication to the “ultimate benefit” of working with great people, this episode gets real about how companies and employees can find common ground in a tense environment.

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