In this episode of We’re Not Recording, hosts Roxanne Petraeus (CEO @ Ethena) and Melanie Naranjo (VP of People @ Ethena) sit down with Ian White, Founder & CEO/CTO of ChartHop — and former actor turned tech leader — to unpack what truly drives healthy, high-performing organizations.They dive into:Why CEO–CPO alignment matters more than ping-pong perks or culture slogansHow long-term people strategies compound like investments (even when short-term wins tempt you)The fine line between transparency and overexposure inside a companyWhy team offsites often miss the point — and how to build real alignment insteadHow improv, acting, and vulnerability translate into better leadershipFrom offsites and org design to accountability and trust, this conversation is a masterclass in building culture that lasts — not one that just looks good on paper.And yes, they debate possum cafés, rabies myths, and the eternal question: Should everyone at work really take an improv class?

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