Listen "How to Grow Your Newsletter in 2025 feat. Flodesk CEO Martha Bitar"
Episode Synopsis
About the Episode:Martha Bitar is the co-founder and CEO of Flodesk, an email marketing platform that makes it easy for creators and entrepreneurs to make beautiful emails designed for conversion. Flodesk has quickly grown to a $30 million ARR business while remaining completely bootstrapped.In this episode of "Uploading...," Martha shares strategies for creating engaging email content, growing a subscriber list, and using email to build authentic audience relationships. She covers key topics like email design, subject line optimization, and future trends like AI-powered email marketing. Martha also provides actionable insights on deliverability, segmentation, automation, and more.Today, we'll cover:- Why email marketing is still one of the most effective channels for creators and businesses- Martha's favorite tactics for rapidly growing your email list and keeping subscribers engaged- The ideal email content and design elements that drive opens, clicks and conversions- How segmentation and personalization can supercharge your email performance- The future of email marketing and how AI will enable solopreneurs to compete with big businessesWhat You'll Learn1. Power and Benefits of Email Marketing for Creators2. Strategies for Growing an Email Newsletter3. Importance of Building an Email List4. Segmentation and Its Importance in Email Marketing5. Automations and Workflows in Email Marketing6. Best Practices in Email Design and Content7. Factors Affecting Email Deliverability8. Relationship Between Open Rates, Deliverability, and Spam9. Future Trends and AI in Email MarketingTimestamps00:00 Martha's background and starting Flodesk00:42 Why existing email solutions weren't working03:30 What makes Flodesk different 04:55 Flodesk's fast growth and bootstrapped success 05:47 How to build and grow an engaged email list 09:36 Strategies for email segmentation 15:50 Overview of the email marketing tool landscape19:52 Best practices for subject lines and preview lines25:49 Two ways to improve email deliverability28:58 Ideal email content and design35:15 Optimal email sending frequency38:02 When and how to clean your email list42:56 How AI will positively impact email marketing46:49 Q&A: Referral programs to grow email lists48:41 Q&A: Reliability of open rates with machine opens49:46 Q&A: Ideal number of emails in a welcome series 52:16 Q&A: Best image-to-text ratio for click rates 54:26 Q&A: Email list quality vs quantity57:02 Where to find Martha and Flodesk onlineWhy Design-Driven Emails Convert Better: “Like there's a lot of noise, attention spans are super short. So every single email, it can't just hit the inbox, it has to stand out, it has to engage from the beginning. It has to be hyper optimized for conversion. And text based without any of your brand just doesn't cut it anymore, right? And not just for solopreneurs. We actually we looked at a case study with Stripe. Stripe is a massive company, right? I think it's the largest private company in the world and they A/B tested a text-based email and one that was actually optimize for conversion using their own brand. And the on brand design-based email increased conversion by 21%. So whether you're a very small business or a large business, like design is not a luxury anymore.” — Martha Bitar, 00:03:32 → 00:04:14.160Why Owning Your Audience Matters: “The risk is not using it [email] because you saw what happened with TikTok, right? It can really disappear overnight and you're really on rented space. You don't own your audience. So over all of the effort that you put into building that followership and engagement can really go away. Where if you're building that on social media, but you're also saying, ‘Hey, by the way, join my newsletter.’ That's the list that you own. You're not platform-dependent. Even if we at some point make a mistake and become like a dinosaur as well, and you want to jump ship and go to another platform, you can just download and export your entire subscriber list and go use another platform.” — Martha Bitar, 00:18:48 → 00:19:25Show notes powered by Castmagic---Have any questions about the show or topics you'd like us to explore further?Shoot us a DM; we'd love to hear from you.Want the weekly TL;DR of tips delivered to your mailbox?Check out our newsletter here.Follow us for content, clips, giveaways, & updates!Castmagic InstagramCastmagic TwitterCastmagic LinkedIn ---Blaine Bolus - Co-Founder of CastmagicRamon Berrios - Co-Founder of CastmagicMartha Bitar - Co-Founder and CEO of Flodesk
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