This episode Kate and Steph talk with Suze, who tried to moderate in numerous ways for five years before she finally quit. They discuss the far-fetched and often ridiculous ‘negotiations’ we make with ourselves when we are trying to limit our drinking and how this can often take us to an even darker and more tormenting place.Show NotesYour thoughts can help shape the future of the show. Take The Sober Effect Podcast Survey.Follow our guest Suze on Instagram @suzesoberFollow us on Instagram@the_sober_effect_podcastKate @‌walking_the_straight_lineSteph @‌this.is.steph.soberEmail [email protected] The Sober Effect Podcast on YouTubeMusic for The Sober EffectTheme written by: Pearl @‌rock_bottomed_girlPerformed by : CharmJar @‌charmjar_musicBass and Vocals: PearlGuitar, Keys, Drums: Thumbelina Jim

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