Podcast 016 | Creating Passive Income with Digital Products with Jen WagnerOn this episode, Jeanne talks with Jen Wagner graphic artist and type designer who deeplybelieves that “sometimes the best solution for your stuck-ness…is to just make something.” 1:52 “I started creating fonts during a pretty severe freelance lull…” 2:46 “I had a very, very, very unhealthy perspective on my self worth, and the connection ofthat to the money I made.” 5:24 “If I’m off balance…you can see it in my work where usually if I am in that headspace,the stuff I’m creating isn’t as good.” 10:57 “Something that has really helped us throughout our marriage is that since we starteddating we were having difficult conversations and we were not afraid of entering that space witheach other.” 14:34 “Go do something other than work to get your creativity back…” 15:56 “I don’t have my degree in design, I have my degree in marketing. I never took a designcourse in college. I am extremely self-taught.” 19:47 “The thing that I’ve had to remember time and time again is that this is not easy. If it waseveryone would do it. I think the process looks like just doing it scared.” 22:26 “As someone who is both a designer and a business owner outside of design, I think youneed to figure out how much your time is worth.” 28:19 “Don’t we learn so much from people bringing questions to us, and realizing we canmake things we’re offering better?” 29:02 “I trust companies that have great design, and I don’t trust companies with bad design.” 29:31 “Great design is actually a tool for communication.” 30:54 “Simplify, stick to a theme and a palette, use the same fonts and same colors but not toomany. Consistency is what most people want when they visit a brand.” 35:52 “With the pandemic, I ended up going through some pretty severe anxiety and swingingbetween that and depression depending on the day. So I’ve had to adapt my schedule andadopt new mental health practices to make sure I’m okay.” 37:26 “The pandemic has definitely helped me connect with my audience on a more personallevel. I think the combined experience here has made everyone a bit more human.” 41:59 “I think it’s important for people to know that everyone listening to this has somethingthat they can share, something that they can teach.” 44:22 “Finding ways to express creativity outside of work and in a way that isn’t just for salehas been very valuable for me.” 47:28 “If you are feeling creative during this time, that’s amazing, pursue that. If you’re notfeeling creative, don’t feel guilty.” Jen Wagner is a type designer and educator based in Nashville, TN. When she's not creating fonts or teaching designers how to make passive income, you'll find her with her husband, Aaron, making candles for their company Onyx Studios, touring with their band Veaux, or spending time with close friends and good whiskey.www.jenwagner.co Jeanne OliverTen Tips To Take Back The PeaceA free ebook if you are looking for some rest in your day-to-day like I was.Get your free resource Ten Tips HERE. Become the artist you dream to be. Creativity is Calling at jeanneoliver.com. You can connect with Jeanne on Instagram and Facebook.

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