Jenna Hermans, known as the "queen of calm," talks about the importance of calmness and chaos in parenting and daily life. We discuss how calmness is subjective and define it as a state of the nervous system where one feels good and in flow. We emphasize the need for individuals to prioritize their own well-being and model self-care for their children. We also discuss the importance of meal planning and habit creation in creating a calmer and more balanced life. Jenna shares personal experiences and strategies for maintaining calmness during challenging times and transitions and we conclude by reminding listeners to be present and prioritize what truly matters. "One thing I'd say is that this is all temporary. The hard that we're experiencing right now is not the same hard that we will experience in the future. This is temporary." - Jenna Hermans Links: Christie's Website Christie's Instagram: @sasssays Jenna's Website Jenna's Book Jenna's Instagram: @jennazhermans Ep 131 with Lindsey Kaszuba  

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