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Listen "When the Marriage Doesn’t Work: Humility, Stability, and the Road to Restoration with Joel Rogers"
Episode Synopsis
Joel Rogers never imagined he’d be divorced. He came from a lineage of seven generations in ministry—missionaries, pastors, faithful men and women who built their lives around God and family. Marriage was meant to be for life. But after over a decade of trying to hold things together, it unraveled. And the shame, grief, and silence nearly crushed him.
In this raw and redemptive conversation, Joel joins host Teko Bailey to reflect on his journey: from young missionary and husband to a broken man learning to forgive, rebuild, and father well in the aftermath. Recorded from his home in Kona, Hawaii, where he leads a creative studio with Youth With A Mission (YWAM), Joel shares the three words God gave him—humility, stability, and restoration—and how they became a roadmap for healing.
This episode is not just about divorce. It’s about what happens when life doesn’t go the way you prayed. It’s about what it takes to stay present for your kids, how men suffer in silence, and why honesty is the first step toward real restoration.
Major Themes & Concepts
✅ Divorce, shame, and reclaiming identity in faith
✅ How men process pain—and why so many retreat in silence
✅ Co-parenting, fatherhood, and being present when everything changes
✅ Why humility is a superpower in seasons of failure
✅ Community, counseling, and the surprising kindness of others
✅ The theology of divorce: what God hates vs. what God redeems
✅ The daily practice of forgiveness (and why it’s a decision, not a feeling)
✅ Restoration as a new beginning, not a return to the past
✅ Choosing joy when you’ve walked through the fire
🕰️ Chapter Breakdown
00:00 – Welcome to The Climb
00:34 – Joel’s story begins: childhood, missions, global travels
02:11 – Life in Kona, lava flows, and running a YWAM studio
04:10 – Falling in love young, early marriage, and misplaced certainty
05:26 – The slow breakdown: unforgiveness and the small things
07:16 – God speaks: humility, stability, restoration
09:01 – Legal pressures, fatherhood, and staying for the kids
10:42 – Refusing to run: why Joel stayed in Kona
12:44 – Men and pain: why we don’t ask for help
14:20 – Wrestling with whether divorce is sin
16:04 – God hates divorce—but He hates abuse too
17:44 – Choosing to forgive daily
21:07 – A second chance: meeting Benny and building again
23:30 – A new marriage, four kids, and true restoration
26:01 – What to say to the man who’s still in the tunnel
28:29 – The joy of today—and how to live without regret
30:09 – Forgiveness as a lifestyle, not a one-time act
30:27 – Final words from Joel on healing, wholeness, and hope
About Joel William Rogers
Joel William Rogers. is a filmmaker, missionary, and creative studio leader based in Kona, Hawaii, where he runs InnoVision Studio under Youth With A Mission (YWAM). With over 30 nations visited and a life devoted to global missions, Joel is passionate about faith, family, and the healing power of storytelling. His life—now marked by restoration, remarriage, and fatherhood—is a testament to the grace of starting again.
Instagram:@joelwilliamrogers
YWAM Kona: www.uofnkona.edu
InnoVision Studio: Internal YWAM media team
About Teko Bailey
Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention.
Instagram: @IamTekoBailey
Website: www.tekobailey.com
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif Studio & Production & The Tallawah Group
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In this raw and redemptive conversation, Joel joins host Teko Bailey to reflect on his journey: from young missionary and husband to a broken man learning to forgive, rebuild, and father well in the aftermath. Recorded from his home in Kona, Hawaii, where he leads a creative studio with Youth With A Mission (YWAM), Joel shares the three words God gave him—humility, stability, and restoration—and how they became a roadmap for healing.
This episode is not just about divorce. It’s about what happens when life doesn’t go the way you prayed. It’s about what it takes to stay present for your kids, how men suffer in silence, and why honesty is the first step toward real restoration.
Major Themes & Concepts
✅ Divorce, shame, and reclaiming identity in faith
✅ How men process pain—and why so many retreat in silence
✅ Co-parenting, fatherhood, and being present when everything changes
✅ Why humility is a superpower in seasons of failure
✅ Community, counseling, and the surprising kindness of others
✅ The theology of divorce: what God hates vs. what God redeems
✅ The daily practice of forgiveness (and why it’s a decision, not a feeling)
✅ Restoration as a new beginning, not a return to the past
✅ Choosing joy when you’ve walked through the fire
🕰️ Chapter Breakdown
00:00 – Welcome to The Climb
00:34 – Joel’s story begins: childhood, missions, global travels
02:11 – Life in Kona, lava flows, and running a YWAM studio
04:10 – Falling in love young, early marriage, and misplaced certainty
05:26 – The slow breakdown: unforgiveness and the small things
07:16 – God speaks: humility, stability, restoration
09:01 – Legal pressures, fatherhood, and staying for the kids
10:42 – Refusing to run: why Joel stayed in Kona
12:44 – Men and pain: why we don’t ask for help
14:20 – Wrestling with whether divorce is sin
16:04 – God hates divorce—but He hates abuse too
17:44 – Choosing to forgive daily
21:07 – A second chance: meeting Benny and building again
23:30 – A new marriage, four kids, and true restoration
26:01 – What to say to the man who’s still in the tunnel
28:29 – The joy of today—and how to live without regret
30:09 – Forgiveness as a lifestyle, not a one-time act
30:27 – Final words from Joel on healing, wholeness, and hope
About Joel William Rogers
Joel William Rogers. is a filmmaker, missionary, and creative studio leader based in Kona, Hawaii, where he runs InnoVision Studio under Youth With A Mission (YWAM). With over 30 nations visited and a life devoted to global missions, Joel is passionate about faith, family, and the healing power of storytelling. His life—now marked by restoration, remarriage, and fatherhood—is a testament to the grace of starting again.
Instagram:@joelwilliamrogers
YWAM Kona: www.uofnkona.edu
InnoVision Studio: Internal YWAM media team
About Teko Bailey
Teko Bailey is a husband, father, coach, and guide for men walking the path of faith and purpose. Through The Climb, he’s building a brotherhood of men committed to living fully, leading boldly, and climbing with intention.
Instagram: @IamTekoBailey
Website: www.tekobailey.com
Production, Distribution, and Marketing By Massif Studio & Production & The Tallawah Group
For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected].
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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