In this powerful episode of The Church Planting Podcast, Greg Nettle is joined by long-time friend and influential church leader Dave Ferguson. Dave is the founding pastor of Community Christian Church, president of Exponential, and co-founder of the global church planting network NewThing—now integrated into Exponential. The conversation covers: Dave's personal and organizational transitions, including appointing a new lead pastor at Community A deep dive into his 5-step leadership apprenticeship model (from his book Hero Maker) His global perspective on a potential revival among Gen Z, especially in the UK The explosive growth of microchurches His upcoming book Multiplier (coming March 2026) Challenges the Church must face to reach the next generation, including creating safe, peace-filled spaces for those deconstructing or new to faith A must-listen for anyone passionate about multiplication, innovation, and the future of the Church. 01:15 – Dave's leadership transition at Community Christian   04:05 – Merging NewThing into Exponential   06:40 – Dave's new role as CEO of Exponential   08:00 – Life Planning: What it is and who should do it   12:00 – 5-Step Apprenticeship Model explained   15:20 – Preview of Dave's new book: *Multiplier*   16:15 – The "Quiet Revival" among Gen Z in the UK   19:45 – US stats: A spiritual shift is happening   21:18 – Church hurt & challenges for church multiplication   23:00 – Peace as the new apologetic   24:30 – Global microchurch movement—how it started   27:00 – Story: 177+ microchurches through online training   29:00 – Why now is the time to empower global leaders   29:50 – Final encouragement & close

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