On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan interviews Brad Setser about the American global trade deficit, why it matters, and why it makes no sense to blame Canada for it.

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For the intro, Kelly and Joe look into Nigerian oil refining and growing energy nationalism in Scandinavia.

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Guest Bio:
- Brad W. Setser is the Whitney Shepardson senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations

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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is a Fellow and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute

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Reading recommendations:
- "Salt: A World History", by Mark Kurlansky: https://www.amazon.ca/Salt-World-History-Mark-Kurlansky/dp/0142001619

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Interview recording Date: February 4, 2025

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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.

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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

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