In this episode of The BNFT Shift, host Josh Reinhard sits down with Michael Erisman to explore how benefits can drive real business value, not just check boxes. Michael shares why HR leaders need to start with business goals before rolling out new programs. He explains that too often, companies rush to implement systems or perks without first asking what problems they want to solve.Michael discusses how culture is shaped by day-to-day experiences, not just top-down policies, and why timing is key when adding structure in growing organizations. He highlights how meaningful benefits—like leave-sharing pools or paid volunteer time—can build stronger teams and foster a sense of belonging. These programs work best when they match both the company’s needs and what employees value most.Throughout the conversation, Michael urges HR leaders to connect with their business, listen to employees, and focus on benefits that create lasting impact. The right choices, he says, can build engagement, retention, and a sense of purpose—without adding unnecessary complexity.Guest-at-a-glance💡 Name: Michael Erisman💡 What he does: HR and People Strategy Advisor💡 Company: Independent (formerly Chief People Officer at Reputation, leadership at DocuSign, Microsoft, Jasper, and more)💡 Noteworthy: Known for designing practical, business-focused HR strategies and building programs—like paid leave and leave-sharing—that drive engagement and connect benefits to real business needs.💡 Where to find him: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelserisman/

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