(0:29) Andrew’s cat, Po’ Boy’s, new friend: a cat named Danger (work-in-title)(2:49) ​​Security Companies: Why so many ‘S’ names?(8:12) Hiring Notice: Sean’s still looking for a Project Manager(10:56) Hiring Notice: So, Sean’s really looking for a Producer/Project Manager(14:36) Getting referrals for Design People from Tech People isn’t the greatest(17:05) Andrew and Sean really appreciate Mike Privette (Return on Security)(22:02) Broadening Horizons: When do you work with people outside your niche?(26:41) Having an outside perspective in an industry isn’t always a bad thing(30:37) Hot Take: Attribution in marketing isn’t very useful(35:13) Our Small EffortsThanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing. Links:Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Bureau of Digital: https://bureauofdigital.com/ Home Repair Lab: https://www.homerepairlab.com/ Mike Privette: @mikepsecuriteeRethink: https://rethinkcanada.com/ Return on Security: https://www.returnonsecurity.com/  For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.

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