When you're trapped in the cycle of credit card debt it can feel like you're never going get that dang thing paid off. But Natasha Janssens is here to tell you a bit of science can help you change the way you think about debt, and help you break the cycle! CREDITS Host: Rachel CorbettContributor: Author & founder of Women With Cents Natasha Janssens. Check her out on Instagram @womenwithcents or head to her website womenwithcents.com.au.Managing Producer: Elle BeattieLead Producer: Rachael HartProducer and Editor: Amy Kimball This episode of Small Change does not constitute financial advice or take into account individual circumstances. Always seek your own independent financial advice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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