We speak with secular political activist Sarah Levin about the evolving landscape for secular voters within the Democratic Party, the implications of interfaith coalitions, and the role of non-religious constituents in upcoming elections.We also explore Sarah's substantial activism, including her role as founder of Secular Strategies and her efforts to establish secular representation within the Democratic National Committee (DNC). She emphasizes the significant strides made since her last appearance, particularly the inclusion of non-religious voices in the DNC’s interfaith efforts and the official endorsement of the principle of separation of church and state in the party's platform for the first time. Doug and Sarah also discuss the challenges that still exist, including the perception issues surrounding secular candidates among both voters and the party apparatus.Sarah reflects on the importance of building a political identity that resonates with both non-religious voters and religious individuals, stressing the necessity of intersectionality in politics. We also focus on voter engagement and the upcoming elections.A critical segment of the conversation addresses the complex U.S. relationship with Israel amidst the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. Sarah articulates her belief that while the U.S. has historically provided unquestioned support to Israel, this is a moment for reevaluation—especially in light of the potential ramifications of a Trump administration, which promises more extreme measures than current policies.Finally we encourage listeners to actively participate in the political process, follow updates on secular candidates, and engage in conversations that amplify the non-religious voice. With Sarah Levin's groundwork laying the foundation for future progress, this episode serves as a clarion call to recognize both the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for secular individuals in politics.Full Show Notes & LinksSend us a textSupport the showSubscribe to our free newsletterCheck out our MerchFollow us on BlueskyFind us on Twitter(for now) Find us on InstagramFind us on Counter SocialFind us on Mastadon

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