In this episode, Meg and Jill unpack two very different engines that drive productivity: fear and flow. While both can produce results, only one creates sustainability, fulfillment, and peace.They reflect on hustle culture, nervous system conditioning, and the hidden cost of fear based success. Through personal stories, coaching insights, and real world business examples, they explore how productivity shifts when trust replaces urgency.They explore:• The difference between fear driven productivity and flow based productivity• How hustle culture conditions the nervous system• Physical symptoms of fear based work• Why fear fueled success never feels like arrival• Awareness as the first step to change• The role of self judgment in keeping fear alive• Non judgment as a bridge to empowerment• Why conditional happiness never works• Flow as a spiritual and creative experience• How flow multiplies output with less effort• Recognizing personal flow patterns• Rituals that reliably activate flow• Why presence with family fuels creativity• How to build sustainable productivity practices• Letting go of guilt around easeThis episode is clarifying and expansive. It is especially powerful for founders, leaders, creatives, and anyone questioning hustle as the price of success.Powerful Quotes from This Episode“Fear can get you there, but you will still be living in fear once you arrive.”“Self judgment is fear in disguise.”“When I slowed down, everything started working better.”“Flow feels like magic because you are aligned.”“You do not arrive at peace by delaying it.”“The journey can be what you are chasing.”“Flow is available more often than we think.”We Would Love to Connect With YouYour reflections and lived experiences mean so much to us.If this episode resonates, please share it, leave a review, or reach out.Connect with JillianWebsite: https://trellissuite.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-pezet-trellis/Email: [email protected] with MegWebsite: www.profoundwellness.netEmail: [email protected]: facebook.com/megan.fikseInstagram: instagram.com/m.laidlawResources MentionedHeart Math BioFeedback Device: https://www.heartmath.com/coachmegSelf Mastery Program:https://www.profoundwellness.net/self-mastery-programBold

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