The current and retired Lucas County Sheriffs discuss realities and challenges with policing in our area, including MacArthur-funded changes in protocol for officers working inside the jail and on the street. Criminal justice researchers weigh in on social movements and employee shortages’ impact on the policing profession. Guests for this episode: Judge Tim Kuhlman, Toledo Municipal Court Mike Navarre, Lucas County Sheriff John Tharp, retired Lucas County Sheriff and former TPD officer Sheronda Ridley, CTF Program Director (de-escalation techniques) Beth Heubner, ASU Professor Adam Watkins, BGSU Professor

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