Community leaders explore the harsh racial realities that complicate efforts to reduce over-incarceration. A long-time advocate for young men and fathers speaks about the challenges of co-parenting, systemic racism, and the deep-rooted distrust between communities of color and the criminal justice system. Guests for this episode: Avis Files, Pathway, Inc. Willie Knighten, Jr. Brothers United Chris Scott, Community Activist Adam Watkins, Professor of Criminal Justice, BGSU Nida Abbasi, MacArthur Foundation Holly Matthews, Executive Director, Toledo-Lucas County Criminal Justice Coordinating Council Shawn Mahone Sr., Founder and Executive Director of Young Men and Women for Change

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