What if prison wasn’t the end of someone's story, but the beginning of a powerful transformation?In this soul-stirring episode, Dr. Payal Beri sits down with Andrew Murphy, Executive Director of the Wisconsin Inmate Education Association (WIEA), to discuss how higher education, empathy, and human dignity are reshaping the lives of incarcerated individuals many of whom were once seen as beyond redemption.Through personal stories, lived experiences, and hard truths, Andrew shares how WIEA’s groundbreaking college-in-prison program is restoring hope, reducing prison violence, and helping incarcerated men become change agents in their communities even from behind bars. Together, Payal and Andrew explore the deep stigmas society places on the incarcerated and why we must rethink justice, humanity, and redemption.In This Episode, You’ll Discover:Why transformation behind bars is not only possible - but essentialHow education and faith-based identity formation impact recidivism and violenceThe myth of "once a criminal, always a criminal"and how that mindset fails communitiesReal-life stories of rival gang members finding unity, fathers inspiring their grandsons, and men rewriting their legaciesWhat families of the incarcerated learn when someone they love transforms insideWhy supporting prison education helps break intergenerational cycles of crimeSupport WIEA’s MissionWant to make a direct impact? Sponsor a student’s college journey behind bars or become a monthly donor. https://www.wieawi.org Connect with Payal: Follow Dr. Payal Beri on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.payalberiSubscribe to Reframing Perspectives on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@payalberi?sub_confirmation=1 Check out RK Empathy: https://www.rkempathy.com/ Connect with Dr. Payal Beri on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/payalberi/Interested in having Dr. Payal Beri speak at your event? https://www.payalberi.com/ If this episode moved you...Follow, rate, and leave a review! It helps more people discover the power of redemption and real change.Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Excitement01:31 The Moment of Conviction03:20 Realizations and Transformations07:15 Debunking Myths About Incarceration10:25 The Power of Education in Prison15:25 Stories of Transformation23:36 Addressing Criticisms and Redemption25:27 The Impact of the Death Penalty on Victims' Families26:52 Redemption and Dignity for Incarcerated Individuals28:02 Inspiring Stories of Transformation29:18 The Ripple Effect of Education in Prison30:42 The Power of Truth and Accountability32:49 Life After Release: Transformations and Challenges35:35 The Role of Faith and EducationConnect with Dr. Payal Beri & Reframing Perspectives: Instagram – Dr. Payal: https://www.instagram.com/dr.payalberi Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@payalberi?sub_confirmation=1 RK Empathy: https://www.rkempathy.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/payalberi Speaking & Media: https://www.payalberi.com

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