Recovering bartender, cookbook author, and beverage entrepreneur John deBary joins Dave Chang and Chris Ying to discuss the three recipes they have chosen to represent a truly transformative ingredient: chickpeas.
Find the recipes for this episode and all previous episodes on The Ringer’s website and follow along with the conversation on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 
Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying
Guest: John deBary
Producer: Isaac Lee
Associate Producer: Sasha Ashall
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