Summary - Written by Me
I feel super lucky to have had Guy Wallace join me for this one, back when the podcast was just an idea I was talking to Guy on LinkedIn, and he mentioned how he was building on what his mentors had taught him and the importance of paying it forward. It made me think more about being able to do the same. It was great to get to sit with Guy (virtually) and hear many words of wisdom from his 45 years of practice in our industry. Feel like I could have talked for another hour, and after we ended the recording, we talked for another 20 minutes. Worth a listen to one of the most knowledgeable people in L&D I have spoken to. You can check out Guy's extensive body of work at: EPPIC - Pursuing Performance

Summary - Written by AI
In this conversation, Greg interviews Guy Wallace, an expert in performance analysis and instructional design. They discuss the importance of focusing on performance rather than just learning, and the need to gather data on the tasks and outputs required for successful performance. Guy emphasizes the value of involving master performers and subject matter experts in the analysis process to ensure accurate and complete data. He also highlights the importance of context and the need to adapt best practices to fit specific performance contexts. The conversation touches on the challenges of convincing clients to adopt a performance-focused approach and the role of transfer in ensuring successful implementation. The conversation explores the importance of adopting the language of the business when communicating with stakeholders and clients. It emphasizes the need to focus on outcomes and how to ensure that learning translates into real-world application. The conversation also discusses the perpetual cycle of renaming and rebranding in the learning and development field, highlighting the importance of understanding the history and context of different terms and concepts. The key takeaways include the importance of using job aids and performance support to avoid forcing memorization, the need to focus on the process and consequence system in performance improvement, and the value of aligning learning with the performance context.

Takeaways

Focus on performance rather than just learning when designing training programs
Involve master performers and subject matter experts in the analysis process to gather accurate and complete data
Adapt best practices to fit the specific performance context
Consider the role of transfer and the potential barriers to successful implementation
Adopt the language of the business when communicating with stakeholders and clients.
Focus on outcomes and ensure that learning translates into real-world application.
Understand the history and context of different terms and concepts in the learning and development field.
Use job aids and performance support to avoid forcing memorization.
Focus on the process and consequence system in performance improvement.
Align learning with the performance context.

Sound Bites

"Focus on performance rather than just learning"
"Involve master performers and subject matter experts in the analysis process"
"Adapt best practices to fit the specific performance context"
"Adopting my own language for those levels."
"How do you know if they just know that at the end of the quiz to your point or the assessment, how do we know they're actually going to do it when they go back to work?"
"You take the blame and say, I should have pushed harder for that one."

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