After years of working hard and seeing limited results in my personal growth, I received a special gift: the transformative power of gratitude through the wisdom of Frank Woggon, a key mentor in my life. Frank's journey from post-war Germany to authoring "The Empathic God: A Clinical Theology of Atonement" offers profound insights into how life's most meaningful gifts, like love and grace, are not earned but received with gratitude. Frank shares a deeply personal narrative about his journey through Clinical Pastoral Education. By viewing his past through a trauma-informed lens, Frank demonstrates how vulnerability can serve as a powerful tool for healing and growth. Our dialogue highlights the evolving role of pastoral care, encouraging the creation of spaces where individuals can safely explore their vulnerabilities and find wholeness in their stories.Join us as we celebrate the power of gratitude and the journey toward empathy and unity in a world eager for healing.

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