I sit down with Liz Muller, co-founder and CEO of Deep Fission, to discuss their underground micro nuclear reactors, decentralized energy, and solve the skyrocketing energy demands of the AI boom.Liz breaks down the fundamentals of nuclear energy and shares her vision for building clean, safe, and cost-effective power sources that can be deployed in a decentralized way.Why nuclear is statistically the safest form of energy production we haveThe real problem with nuclear waste and a clear path to solving itWhy France successfully went all-in on nuclear energyHow Deep Fission's design could lower nuclear costs by 80%The serendipitous discovery behind their underground reactor conceptThe DOE pilot program and winning the energy race in the USHow decentralized nuclear can power the AI data center boomIf you're interested in the future of energy, decentralization, or how we'll meet the energy needs of AI, you won't want to miss this conversation.Chapters:00:00 Introduction01:59 Energy 101: What is Nuclear Fission?03:02 Fission vs. Fusion Explained03:35 Why Nuclear is The Only Clean & Reliable Power Source04:39 Why Nuclear Is The Safest Energy We Have06:10 Real Problem With Nuclear Waste07:29 Public Perception & Cost Challenges09:37 How Nuclear Waste Is Currently Stored11:02 Why France Succeeded With Nuclear Power11:56 Discovery Behind Deep Fission's Underground Reactors17:52 Deep Fission’s Modular Design21:07 Nuclear Fuel Supply Chain Explained26:27 Building Reactors A Mile Underground31:35 Gaining Community Acceptance for Nuclear Projects33:42 DOE’s Pilot Program: A Fast Path To Build by 202639:39 Decentralization and Efficiency in Energy Production42:15 Liz's Journey Into Nuclear Energy44:37 How Deep Fission Uses AI To Build Reactors48:19 Liz Predictions50:45 Rapid FireFollow Jordan on X: https://x.com/jrwolfeLinks to Liz’s Work:Deep Fission – [https://www.deepfission.com](https://www.deepfission.com/) LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethmuller/ Key Influences Mentioned:Luis Alvarez - https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/profile/luis-alvarez/Subscribe & Follow:Join the Substack - ⁠https://goingdirect.substack.com/subscribe⁠Listen on Apple Podcasts – ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/going-direct-conversations/id1800505663⁠Subscribe to YouTube for more deep dives on decentralization, robots, and the real economy – ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@goingdirect_/videos

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