EPISODE 38Recorded mid-flight in Kevin’s Vision Jet en route to Monterey, Kevin and Jason talk with veteran pilot and aviation podcaster Max Trescott about why flying can feel like a flow-state reset, and how the discipline of aviation maps to building companies. Kevin shares his path from earning a pilot’s license in college to taking a long break, then returning to aviation with structured training, checklists, and the calm that comes from repetition. Together they unpack why “it’s not hard, it’s a lot of effort,” why SOPs and emergency prep matter when things break, and the real key to learning: consistent time in the seat, the right instructor, and a focus on proficiency over deadlines.CHAPTERS00:00 – Flying as a stress reset and the “are you ready?” check00:48 – Welcome to Founder Mode from the Vision Jet02:55 – Kevin’s pilot journey: college license to getting hooked on the Vision Jet05:23 – The founder/pilot overlap: effort, SOPs, and staying calm when things change13:09 – Buying (and upgrading) a jet: the sales cycle, timing, and “right message, right moment”LINKSConnect with Max TrescottAviation News Talk • LinkedIn • X/TwitterStay Connected with Founder ModeSubscribe to our newsletter: foundermode.kit.comConnect with KevinLinkedIn • X/TwitterConnect with JasonLinkedIn • X/Twitter

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