There's so much in this episode from the importance of not saying 'yes' to everything to recognising that being under-stimulated in life can lead to anxiety as much as a life too full and how perfectionism is not helpful for the mind. Steve tells us how a pivotal curve ball in his career changed everything and we end with a discussion on how those with mental health issues don't always present themselves in the way we think. His greatest fear post lockdown and recommended reads (and an allowed soundtrack because he's a real music buff) are at the end of the interview. Karen: Instagram: karen.pirie and cornwallwoman Twitter: @karenepirie and @cornwallwoman Sarah: Instagram: cripps.sarah and bigbalancetheory LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahcripps  https://www.linkedin.com/company/big-balance-theory/ Linktr.ee/bigbalancetheory James at BeHeard Be Heard | Podcast Production Steve Williams https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-williams-26816659 https://freakonomics.com/podcast/turning-work-into-play/ Recommended read: https://www.bnf.org/products/books/ Mentions: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0GYg0UN5LGkpoQcShLJxyE?si=3L93OKUKSHyBzhnXEfMRIw https://open.spotify.com/episode/4atM5zDRiJRwn9ge74tMCj Dr Karen Sankey who picked Lost Connections Johann Hari https://thelostconnections.com/ https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180219-toxic-perfectionism-is-on-the-rise

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