I’ve run across (or into!) Mark O’Brien ([email protected]) in several online conversations. From the first, I knew we’d be friends, for two reasons. First, Mark and I both love to write and love to explore and discover, even if we ruffle a few feathers—or entire flocks—in the process. Second, after Mark says something, I never need to stop and consider, “I wonder what’s really on his mind?”So we got together to talk. No surprise, we followed a jogging meander through writing, childhood, parents, courage, writing, literature, marriage, thinking, expectations, the nature of nature, and life bumps small and mammoth. Oh, did I mention writing? There is nothing like doing a podcast with someone to establish a friendship, btw. Little did I know . . . . Join us and find out how “There is a bee on the bridge” shines a bright light on our capacity for courage and love.

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