I was never diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder. Of course, the label didn't exist until 1980, so I simply received more than one report card that said, 'Seems to have difficulties following direction." As a lifelong teacher, I often clashed with the administration, who struck me as hidebound and beset by a "let's not make waves" perspective. My biases.Amy Gallie has been a school administrator for much of her life. She's smart, candid, fun and loves, loves, loves children. We talk about single-gender classrooms, failing forward, the gap between teaching and administering, having at least one silly project to avoid burnout, and high responsibility coupled with low autonomy - a frustration of administrators that had never occurred to me. Listen along as I meet and engage a wonderfully principled principal.

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