Bringing you part 2 of my conversation with mentor and creative juggernaut, Frank Grubich. If you haven't listened to Part 1, definitely go check that out first. In this lively conversation, we chat about how walking your dog leads to deeper insights, the challenges designers face in being valued and how we all need to continue to push boundaries by taking risks and continuously asking questions.We get into managing change throughout the conversation, including showing clients options and we discuss Frank's approach to nurturing the design team that I worked on years ago. I'm grateful for the time Frank has given to the podcast and I hope you find our conversation both entertaining and meaningful.If you'd like to join A76's Patreon, check out the two levels of support. I appreciate you taking the time to consider it. A76 and its episodes are created by Noel ChildsSeason 4 on the Human Spark is produced by Noel ChildsSeason 3 on Scale is produced by Noel ChildsSeason 2 on Change was produced by Noel ChildsSeason 1 on AI was produced by Casey Hudetz and Noel ChildsOur theme music was composed and performed by Stella Solveig and mixed and mastered by Abbey Nettleton The outro was read by Trudie and Storey Childs If you like what you hear, please give us a rating.Or become a member of the A76 Patreon at patreon.com/A76designpodHave a question or comment, email [email protected] follow us on Instagram

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