In this episode Pam & Sarah discuss:

The importance of having hobbies as adults


Thinking of hobbies and downtime as a radical act


How your stories about what you can't do are holding you back from possible joy


How hobbies can create social connection


Why intentional downtime is important


What being engaged with moments of pleasure can do for the rest of your life


How trying new things, even if you're bad at them, makes you better at other things


How intentional downtime makes you more productive


The power of asking "Can I do this?"


Starting with a minimum viable product mindset


Using habit creation to make a new hobby stick


Links to things we mention:

Waking Up App: https://www.wakingup.com/

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