r/zen is a reddit forum about Zen scholarship, study, and practice. Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/zen/comments/17bwohk/whats_at_stake_the_set_of_good_the_set_of_bad/ Post Summary: Don't seek Buddha, don't seek the teaching, don't seek the community, and so forth; don't seek virtue and knowledge, intellectual understanding and so forth. When feelings of defilement and purity are ended, still don't hold to this non-seeking and consider it right - do not dwell at the point of ending, and do not long for heavens or fear hells. When you are unhindered by bondage or freedom, then this is called liberation of mind and body in all places. Zen Teaching: Soto Zen Patriarch Dongshan, among others Post Cast Overview: Goodbad problems: (1) people who say good/bad with no formula for it, (2) people who say everything is relative, so there is no contextual good/bad, (3) People who say that good/bad doesn't exist for them, but can't walk the walk. A world of Zen Masters. Zen Master for president.

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