Listen "81. When science makes babies & the state makes decisions: IVF, surrogacy & ART law w/ Sandra Opiyo - Yesticle"
Episode Synopsis
For this Yesticle, the Yes Girls take a more serious turn. No yesing, no games - just a deeply important conversation that too many women, couples, and families struggle with in silence.This mini episode explores infertility, IVF, surrogacy, egg and sperm donation, and the evolving legal frameworks around Assisted Reproductive Technology (ART) in Kenya.Akumu and Claire sit down with Sandra Opiyo, founder of Nina Misaro Associates Advocates, an Advocate of the High Court of Kenya, and one of the country's most passionate voices in ART Law, to unpack the rights, risks, realities, and emotional toll of navigating fertility challenges today.Whether you're considering fertility treatment, supporting someone, or simply curious about how law and reproductive health intersect, this episode gives you clarity, grounding, and crucial information._____Timestamps to Specific Segments:(0:00) Intro(1:59) Meet Sandra Opiyo - lawyer and specialist in Assisted Reproductive Technology (ART) law(2:53) Explaining the terms: What is Assisted Reproductive Technology (ART)? (+ IUI and IVF?)(5:38) Where and why must the law intervene, and what are the consequences of unregulated reproduction?(9:42) How the law is evolving around ART & reproductive rights in Kenya(11:55) Countries with forward-thinking and comprehensive legal frameworks governing reproductive health and ART(14:13) Legal protections for intended parents and surrogates(15:45) Topics gaining attention in the ART space: robot surrogacy, designer babies, reproductive autonomy, egg/embryo freezing & fertility preservation, posthumous sperm extraction, sperm donor limits and regulations (e.g., the Jonathan Jacob Meijer case - The Man With 1000 Kids)(33:25) Sandra's advice for anyone seeking ART services: what to do when you can't get pregnant & what to know before starting any ART process(35:50) The stigma surrounding fertility struggles, infertility, and reproductive autonomy in Africa(42:41) What Sandra has recently said yes to(44:09) Outro______If you've ever wondered about infertility, IVF, surrogacy, or reproductive rights in Kenya, this conversation will give you clarity you didn't even realise you were missing.Once you've listened, pass it on.Infertility is more common and emotionally complex than people think. Women deserve informed consent, protection, and support — and families deserve empathy, not pressure. Sharing this episode might help someone finally feel seen.____________________If you enjoy the podcast, we love you! And we'd like to ask you to rate us on Spotify - it will only take a couple of seconds, we promise! If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts, please take a moment to leave a brief review. We promise it will take less than a minute unless, of course, you have more to say. In any case, we appreciate you!Thanks in advance!_____________________For video logs, visit https://www.youtube.com/@yesgirlspodcast For blogs, visit https://yesgirlspodcast.com/ Feel free to follow us across these platforms:INSTAGRAM TWITTERLINKEDINTIKTOK
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