What is the real cost of gender equality at the top? We celebrate more women in leadership but are we overlooking the pressures, double standards, and potential for burnout they face? In this episode, Joanne Peh delves into this trade-off with Minister Grace Fu. Together, we explore the demands of leadership, the challenge of balancing visibility with personal well-being, and whether progress is symbolic or truly systemic.From her corporate C-suite experience to nearly two decades in politics, Minister Grace Fu shares insights on navigating expectations and driving change. But the core question persists: Are we creating sustainable pathways for women leaders, or asking them to pay too high a price for success in systems not yet fully adapted?Join us as we confront uncomfortable truths, discuss the need for genuine structural shifts, and explore how leadership can become more equitable and sustainable for women.For collaborations, partnerships, or feedback, reach us at [email protected] the podcast 5 stars, follow, and share if you enjoy our content.Listen to the audio version of this podcast:Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2UUDTSerqtElRlzbDujZji?si=d4ff63ff3321493a Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-do-i-know-with-joanne-peh/id1619082241Follow us on social media:Joanne Peh: https://www.instagram.com/joannepeh/What Do I Know? Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/whatdoesjoanneknow/ZYRUP Media: https://www.instagram.com/zyrupmedia/ Minister Grace FuPMO: https://www.pmo.gov.sg/The-Cabinet/Ms-Grace-FU-Hai-YienFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/gracefu.hy/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gracefu.hy/?hl=en Chapters: 00:00 Start of Episode02:00 Introduction of Guest04:10 Essential Qualities for Women Leaders07:15 Defining Feminine vs. Masculine Qualities11:45 Navigating Emotional Bias15:06 Leading in Male-Dominated Industries18:30 Acknowledging Gender Disadvantage23:26 Lack of Women in Shipping Industry27:36 What Was Minister Grace Like When She Was Young?30:08 Minister Grace's Parenting Philosophy34:03 Struggles as a Working Mom36:49 Stepping Back From Work39:12 Childhood Caregiving & Gender Roles43:28 Advice for Women Returning to Work45:35 Why Minister Grace Entered Politics47:40 Integrating Politics and News Into Family Life49:03 Dealing with Negative Policy Reception53:07 How Minister Grace’s Passions Influence Her Work55:28 Personal Stance on Sustainability57:47 Upcoming Sustainability Plans59:04  End of Episode

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